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ERIC HSU

San Francisco State University, San Francisco Unified School District
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    Eric Hsu

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    May 12, 2019 | 07:04 p.m.

    I have even more of an update on this project. The first two years were supported by the NSF INCLUDES grant. These years triggered a number of collaborations on campus, which have resulted in three recent grants:

    - NSF INCLUDES Alliance with CAHSI (an action network for improving CS teaching in college and K-12)

    - NSF CS4ALL with SF Unified School District (continuing PD for CS teachers)

    - NSF IUSE to support the PINC project (CS mentoring and minor for women and URMs)

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    Abby Funabiki

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    May 13, 2019 | 10:28 a.m.

    Awesome to hear about the different partners supporting the entire pathway! Does Google (or other industry partners) play an ongoing role with SFUSD schools and students after the summer boot camp? Seems like a fantastic opportunity for SFUSD to offer students internships and for industry partners to nurture and recruit local talent.

     
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    Eric Hsu

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    May 13, 2019 | 11:01 a.m.

    Thank you for the supportive words.  

    Google has been supportive of SFSU students through our CAHSI alliance, but isn’t directly involved with SFUSD through this project. As far as I know, Salesforce has been much more involved with SF Unified.

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    Lisa Miller

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    May 13, 2019 | 08:16 p.m.

    Thank you for sharing your video!  It's interesting to hear about the full CS Pathway you have developed.  Have you had a chance to determine if more students in the SFUSD are taking higher level CS classes in high school, and/or choosing to major in CS in college now that there is a K-12 CS curriculum? Are there other impacts you have seen?

     
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    Eric Hsu

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    May 14, 2019 | 04:39 p.m.

    Those are great ideas for tracking. We don’t have those numbers, but they are the kinds of retention stats we are interested in.  It’s actually amazingly hard to track students across education systems and it will take some concerted efforts and openness from data managers.

     
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    Lisa Miller

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    May 15, 2019 | 09:36 p.m.

    Thank you for your response!

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    Quinn Burke

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    May 14, 2019 | 07:10 p.m.

    Appreciated this excellent video - we are working on K-12 pathways with 3 districts across the states of IL, IA, and AL, and K-12 alone is a challenge so appreciate the reach of this work which extends to post-secondary with SFSU and then the workplace with the Chamber.  On this note, what is the role of the Chamber on this work?  Are they helping facilitate the link between K-12 schools or working with SFSU here (or both)?

     

     
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    Eric Hsu

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    May 16, 2019 | 04:16 p.m.

    Thank you for the note.  Your work sounds way more complex — cross-district, with 3 different standards, yikes.  

    The Chamber’s work has been in brokering relationships with companies for internships for the college students, and between the school district and businesses for financial and volunteer support.

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    Jared O'Leary

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    May 16, 2019 | 02:14 p.m.

    Glad to see the amount of support from, and collaboration between, various organizations. While San Francisco is well known for supporting technology, CS, coding, etc., it's also known for resistance from community members. I'm curious about the students and parents who are uninterested in CS careers. What kinds of questions or concerns have been voiced from people who are uninterested in CS careers? In addition to promoting careers, do you also promote or discuss how CS might be useful for people interested in CS for leisure (e.g., I modded a video game to propose to my wife). I ask as someone who is in strong support of your project and out of curiosity with how you have/might respond to such concerns (which were voiced by some of the kids/parents in a district I previously worked in). 

     
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    Eric Hsu

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    May 16, 2019 | 04:14 p.m.

    Hello, thanks for the interesting question. I’ve not heard anything negative from any parent about providing CS curriculum in school. I think parents appreciate their students getting exposed to it so they can have a fair shot at developing an interest and love for it.

    I know there is some concern about how wealthy technology workers are changing the character of SF and making neighborhoods unaffordable for long time residents and businesses. There has also been a medium term pattern of decline of school age children in the city, possibly related to the gentrification.

    But again, I’ve not heard of any parental negativity around CS in schools.

     
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    Jared O'Leary

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    May 17, 2019 | 10:41 a.m.

    That's great you haven't had any pushback from parents! I appreciate what you're doing and I'm glad to hear the parents of children you are serving also appreciate your efforts!

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    Alex Gurn

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    May 16, 2019 | 04:39 p.m.

    It's great to see this work showcased! I am wondering about key takeaways you've drawn regarding how to prepare teachers to lead CS instruction. Also, where can we access your research on this work?  

     
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    Eric Hsu

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    May 19, 2019 | 09:16 p.m.

    Hello, thanks for the encouragement. We’ve done evaluation style research on the work, but don’t have enough time with students in the program to report on their progress along the pathway. 

    The contrast is between no PD for CS teachers and what we’re doing, so we’re confident this is an improvement. But in the future, tracking student outcomes should help us improve our work.

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